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call home fries oh yeah cooking them up mellow
OK so this is there's several things happening number
one know this you are just weeks away from
the state not being safer what I mean by
that tongue and cheek what I'm mean that by
that is that the legislator goes into session I
can say that cause I was one I am
a recovering state legislator myself in and we joke
that the legislature being in session the state is
not safe and then just the opposite when they
when they adjourned so here's something that's coming let's
see I'll grab this one first right now there
is some pretty serious inclination that the speaker of
the house Nathaniel Ledbetter who's been in studio here
before we need to get him back but speaker
of the house Nathaniel Ledbetter seems to be inclining
to the idea of Medicaid expansion why is that
a big deal I mean are we just taking
care of people that's all it is and I
mean we got people out there need stuff it's
more than that I mean right now I want
to say 2 4 % of Alabamians on some
form of government assistance for medical care that is
not because we are a objectively poor state it's
because like many other states we have just allowed
the opportunity for entitlement programs to continue to grow
now I do not mind the idea of taking
care of those who are greatly in need what
I do mind is when we continue to use
taxpayer dollars to fund something that then a create
more entitlement B charges it to the taxpayers and
then see also by the way just really hits
the bottom line hard for our state finances Medicaid
right now we have two budget if you're not
familiar we have two budget we're one of the
only state in the world in the nation at least
that that has two budgets one is all education
everything to do education something in the neighborhood of
$8.1 billion last year everything else it takes to run
the state is in what's called the general fund
budget and that's where you have things like Medicaid
prisons mental health state troopers the court system all
that is over there so the general fund budget
is like $2.2 billion I gotta go back and look
and see what it was but Medicaid consumes like
3 3 % of that it's massive but feel
if we expanded all we're doing is helping people
no you're spending a whole lot more money and
oh no by the way it's a it's a
tough nut to crack because we have in Alabama
a balance budget requirement we're not allowed to go
into death spending praise God for that but all
that to say we can't afford this oh but
Phil doesn't the federal government help with these dollars
yeah at first so Medicaid the way it works
is a state has to spend X amount for the
number of enrollees and they draw down it's called
a federal match the federal match and I don't
recall the percentages the federal match is what it
is the feds under Obama care wanted all the
states to grow their Medicaid plants and they said
we'll pay for it we'll pay for the increase
for the first several years after that we pick
up the ticket way back when I was in
the legislature it was gonna be an extra $279 million
a year that we'd have to find and so we
said no we were one of the states that
said no we're not doing this well you know
since then the new Republican order in the state
house which is a super major majority by the
way has done things like past gas taxes defy
the idea of having school choice and granted they've
done some good things but they also done some
things to look at and go what you guys
doing well there is no pressure for them to
have to expand Medicaid unless they want to because they
are in the majority now having said all that
speaker of the house Nathaniel Ledbetter recently spoke at
a breakfast panel hosted in Montgomery he has quoted on Alabama
daily news just a couple weeks ago as saying
it is time to consider the impact to improve
the state quality of healthcare by floating the idea
of expanding Medicaid with a privatized approach what does
that even mean a privatized approach saying that the
discussions on the idea among legislative leaders were ongoing
that's the first time I've heard that we're looking
at the possibility of expanding Medicaid and I would
I would question why the Republicans would see this
is being a good idea he talks about how
much more we'll bring down in the match to
cover up the gap and the 20 10 convertible
care act that's Obama care by the way allows
this eligibility to to grow well yeah but like
I said they don't pick it up forever and
then it's on us to maintain it cause once
you put it in place brother you ain't taking
it away so there's that we'll talk with them
Stephanie Smith top of the hour from the policy
Institute about what she thinks on this one here's
the other thing things they don't have to do unless
they just want to expansion of casino gaming I've
talked about this at nausea I will try not
to refresh every single aspect of this but here's
the bottom line they're using a strawman argument well
gambling is happening out there illegally so we better
just go ahead and legalize it so we can
regulate it and tax it I could say that
about anything I could say that about prostitution I
could say that about drug trafficking I can say
that about human trafficking it's happening heck why don't
we just legalize it so we have to quit worried
about it and you know Bagali then we can
just regulate it and oh by the way tax
it so what they talk about right now exclusive
on 18 19 news today exclusive preview house lawmakers
are to introduce a gambling bill with lottery sports
betting class three casino gaming all of it they're
putting like they're like we're gonna be a gambling
state man this is awesome so according to officials
who spoke to 18 19 news lawmakers plan to
introduce a bill that will include class three gaming
that's casinos full casino gaming a state lottery sports
book gaming in the creation of an Alabama gaming
commission you know what they know they know the
people of Alabama wouldn't mind having a lottery to
throw that in the bill maybe they'll draw people
to the polls and they'll get all of it
what they're also doing either way is there a
rewarding the people who have been breaking our laws
for years they are not just the ones running
the little bingo hall in the back of you
know granny 's kitchen no we're talking about the
people that I've been truly defying the law and
corrupting our state politics with bribes and all kinds
of other you know undo influences the way this
works by the way is it requires a constitutional
amendment our constitution as a state does not allow
this so they would have to pass something in the
interim they'd have to also basically repeal 18 other constitutional
amendments that have allowed some form of some gambling
like a dog tracker or a bingo hall and
then they'd have to pass something that would allow it
and what are they gonna do is it gonna
be free market no because they keep operating like
non- Republicans so it's gonna be allowed in certain
parts of the state what yes the Port Creek
band of Indians will have it on their tribal
lands Birmingham Macon County Green County Lous County Houston
County Mobile County and an undetermined county in Northeast
Alabama oh by the way the speaker of the
house who really wants a casino happens to be
from Jackson County so what we're looking at here
is what I would call a non- free market
non- republican style bill that oh by the way
also legalizes casino gaming and here's the thing even
if they can get this to pass which I
don't think they can in the legislature it still
has to be brought to a vote of the people
because a constitutional amendment in Alabama requires a vote
of the people to ratify it so they can
put all their political On the line and try
to pass that bad boy and claimed that all
they're doing is really just trying to bring in
more revenue which just need more revenue just all
revenue we're doing is bringing our legalize so we
can regulate it and tax it what a stupid
argument but then at the same time they will
have to build government because I have to have a gaming
commission then and then the loss so technically be
raising taxes because they'll be taxing get it unusual levels
for themselves then they'll start taxing the winnings and
then they won't let you go in without taxing your
entry and I'm pretty sure what they're gonna wind
up doing is taxing your exit too and then
on top of that you got issues with corruption
and influences that we don't want and we're rewarding
bad guys good luck with that fellas that's what
I'm saying all right listen that's it's a bit of
a rundown and some things coming up in your
legislative session that starts in a few weeks we'll see
how that goes I'll just take a break right
now I'll come right back and I'll tell you
about some other stuff happening around the state that
is just interesting and then coming up top of
the hour are we on the line with Stephanie
Smith and the policy Institute followed by Hannah Stevens
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what we like to call cooking up a batch
of home fries yes indeed mallet trying to figure
out which story I wanna go with next to
you let me grab this one so here's one
of the quirky things that our state government did
at some point in the past and now trying
to unravel it is like I don't know dealing
with the mafia the alcoholic beverage control board the
ABC board have you ever noticed like you know
old days were called liquor stores and run down
a liquor store get me a bottle of ripple
you know go to a liquor store and get
some fireball whatever how many of Max called ABC
store stores have you noticed that ABC stores do
you know what they are state owned liquor stores
that's what they are why are we in the
business of competing with private industry I'm not even
commenting on the nature of what they're selling I'm
not I'm not going down that road at all
what I'm asking is I don't care if it's
a bread store what if we had the ABC
store was the Alabama bread control board and they
were selling bread when it makes sense to you
for Alabama to be in the business of having
state employees stocking shelves and running cash registers and
paying leases on property to oh by the way
sell bread which compete with the private sector why won't
we do that why are we doing this it's
a question that we could never get answered and
I'll tell you what I'm gonna go ahead and
let you in on one of the dirty little
secrets out of Montgomery that I don't have anything more
than just like the oh yeah kind of stories
I'm not getting no names all right but if you
look at an ABC store and they're in almost
all communities I can picture two or three around
where we are right now they are not on
state property they lease from people oh really oh
yes big perpetual leases why is that important because
in the old days you could never get rid
of ABC stores and the since was oh look
they're often owned by LLCs that may very well
have former state legislators holding the leases and making
money on state contracts wouldn't that be a hoot
to prove don't have it in hand but I
can tell you it's awful that being said you
still have to ask why are we competing with the
private industry at the same time our buddy Yaffe
who's up at W V N N in Huntsville
and also writes articles for yellowhammer news he wrote
a piece that came out yesterday so don't just
cancel the new ABC warehouse into the ABC completely
he says the lease on the alcoholic beverage control
facility in Montgomery is due to end in 20
2 5 the board is looking for a new
bigger facility the ABC board excepted proposal for a
new warehouse they're looking for a Augusta gargantuan warehouse
by the way and so this is gonna be
one more thing that we're gonna do and and
he makes a point that I just kind of
made he says imagine if Governor Ivy announced tomorrow
that Alabama would start opening new government run grocery
stores and then we would now have a monopoly
overall grocery sold so even the privately owned alcohol
sales stores have to go through the ABC board for
their licensure and then compete with them and then
think about this state employees with state benefits are
stocking shelves why is that a thing for us
why Alabama is one of only 17 states that
has a government not monopoly over alcohol sales Yaffe
rights I can understand why a Democrat control straight
want this kind of monopoly but why the yellowhammer
state we're solidly conservative can someone explain now having
government run liquor stores alliance with state government policies
what a awesome question my friend and I joined
the Senator Arthur or multiple times on bills to
undo the ABC board that never went anywhere because
you couldn't never get enough buying I can cosponsor
all day long and if nobody's gonna vote for
it there since but yes I was on I
was on that multiple times multiple times and it
always it always got resistance and it always died
in a quiet pile there's that what else have
I got here real quick before we go to
the break here's an unusual story so I imagine
this to be a new charter school and I
don't know much about it but a story on
Alabama daily news came out yesterday that caught my
attention in Demopolis Alabama y'all Demopolis is a wonderful
little town down I believe in Marengo County and
I had a friend of mine that grew up
there he said it was a great kind of
town it kind of town where you could dial the wrong
number and talk for 10 minutes awesome but in
Demopolis Alabama they're proposing a brand new healthcare sciences
high school so it may be one of those new
charter schools or a state sponsored specialty school but
it will focus on healthcare sciences and they just
got a pledge for a $26.4 million pledge from Bloomberg
philanthropies in New York now I question because Bloomberg is
not known for being conservative are they gonna be
teaching transgender access I don't know all I know
is it's a $26.4 million pledge from Bloomberg the money
is of course contingent upon state support for the high school
which envision as a tool not help produce more
healthcare workers but to train in place workers in
Alabama rural communities it's an interesting concept I've told
you about all I know of it but it
is it is already out there with a massive
pledge and local legislators are like whoop whoop this
is all good we'll keep our eyes on this
and tell you where it goes but in the
meantime I find this to be an un for
school choice so if it's a charter school it's
an opportunity to grow something that's cool I also
just can't help I wonder what's gonna happen if
we take $26 million in Bloomberg money where will it
go yet it seems like local legislators all I
mean it all levels love to talk and get
all excited about a bunch of money coming in
from grants and government and but maybe look into
it guys does it have stringers attached to it
I think that is worthy of a follow up
or Bloomberg from Anthony's by the way announced they
lost a $250 million initiative to create new healthcare high schools
across the country pledging money to 10 communities including
Houston New York City in Philadelphia and Demopolis Alabama anyway we'll
see what happens that's a big doings but at
the same time you look at it go but
what are they gonna know have attached to that
money what requirements to recognize certain lifestyles or things
will they have all right coming back next we're gonna
be on the line with Stephanie Smith President of
the Alabama policy Institute get her thoughts on several
policy issues which I've already touched on Phil Williams
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well welcome to our number two already on this
Friday afternoon and butters is just get me all
fired up during the break talking about legislators and
things they do is so-called discretionary funds I can
fill my blood pressure going up all right settling down
now going to the phone is matter fact our
good friend Stephanie Smith President of the Alabama policy
Institute she's been around policy and government now at
both you know state and federal for quite some
time president now of the Alabama policy Institute if
you're not familiar you can find them at Alabama
policy .org I was proud to spend some time
on staff there myself and she's doing a great
job Stephanie Smith how are you I'm doing great
I'm sorry I miss the conversation about discretionary funds
because I have a pet peeve about that I
know that surprise but here's my pet peeve the
people who take pictures of themselves needing the legislators
with the big checks like they're from publishers clearing
house I think there should be a requirement during
the break that's what we were talking about yes
the big shack I feel like there should be
some sort of and you know I'm not top
down I'm very bottoms up in a freedom oriented
but let's let's float a piece of legislation where
you have to take at least five taxpayers with you with
the big check because that is who is actually
paying the money not the members of my delegation
and I won't name names but there were members
of my delegation who were notorious for using the
big fake check and I'm trying and trying to
be there tried to be the big stuff you
know and I used to go and I would
I would stand there and I'd watch it and
then I would I would I would always announce
to their sugar and I would say I want
to thank all of y'all for being here today
and I wanna remind you guys that we had
nothing to do with this money these are your
tax dollars coming home to you and we're just
proud of it and the other legislators with this
curses he did it again but anyway well you
didn't call him for that let's talk about some
other stuff so the legislative session is gonna be
kicking off before we know it I mean it
next month right away so earlier in the show
I'm not sure if you had to hear it
but I had a bit of a rant about
two things one well I mean three things if
you wanna throw in the fact that I'm trying
to question why a Republican super majority would do
some of what it does but but the two
things that I harped on were we're we're really
seeing speaker lead better right now speaker of the
house Ledbetter sort of intoning that Medicaid expansion is
under consideration and then secondly they're looking at bringing
this you know giant omnibus gambling bill that is
just a just a complete distortion of what Republican
stand for give me your thoughts took away there
are also rumors that are flying that those things
are related and so that is one of those
things that you're like OK it is one thing
to be obnoxious and stand up with a big
check and balloons and act like you're working for
publishers clearing house it's another thing to actually horse
trade taxpayer dollars for something that you want or
possibly even something that you're benefiting bro and we're
we're in real corruption zone at that point but
as far as a Medicaid expansion talk it's one
of those times when you're like OK words matter
right and the way you define things matter words
matter and describing a Medicaid expansion as a public
private partnership is a fallacy from the beginning because
the federal government will not spend money to a
private any sort of private corporation for the purposes
of Medicaid so that's that's a false from the
beginning that it being described that way now I
will say I think that they're trying to model
what they're talking about after the Arkansas Medicaid expansion
and the Arkansas Medicaid expansion actually occurred in 20
13 so over 10 years ago Arkansas through in
the towel and that we're gonna expand Medicaid we're
gonna be part of the federal program we're gonna
let the feds tell us what to do and
they've changed it several times since then of course they
rename it something else that sounds good every time
you know Arkansas it was Arkansas works and then
it was in healthcare independence program and then back
to Arkansas work and then now at our home
or something like that but basically the concept is
the same which is throwing in the towel as
a state and becoming part of the federal Medicaid
Acara what's different about what they're talking about supposedly
which I've not seen anything in writing but what's
different about what what they're talking about here in
Alabama is what they're now doing in Arkansas which
is creating a middleman and so what happened is
that the governor of the state which it was
Asa Hutchinson at the time in Arkansas was not Sarah
Huckabee Sanders at the time when they expanded Medicaid
but the governor has broad authority to expand Medicaid
frankly and the Medicaid commissioner does by virtue of
her by virtue of her position they can basically
just stay there doing it the question becomes will
the legislature fund it and so they have pretty
like I said they have pretty broad discretion about
how yeah how to apply for the waiver there's
lots of jargon here but the gist of it
if Governor Ivy and her Medicaid commissioner decide that
they want to expand Medicaid in this way what
will happen is that they'll make an agreement with
the feds and then they'll they'll create us as
a secondary agreement with I'm hearing Blue Cross Blue Shield because
they're kind of the monopoly organization in the state
to be the middleman so what would happen is
that people on the Medicaid roles would actually shift
to be Blue Cross customers so now you see why
Blue Cross is for it because of the federal money
being funnel to Blue Cross instead of it being "
Medicaid expansion but it would really be Medicaid expansion
we would just be calling it something pretty so
it's it's lipstick on the pig it's the exact
same problems that we have with actual Medicaid expansion
or full-fledged Medicaid expansion but it's it shaded a
little differently to make it sound better to constituent
make it sound worse for a second you said
several things and I want I want to rephrase
them just slightly it is it is acquiescence to
Obama care because that's where the Medicaid expansion push
came from so it's first of all it's a
state you said throwing in the towel perfect description
it's a state throwing in the towel to acquiesce
to the demands of Obama care and then on
top of that it's a ticket that actually gets
more expensive a few years later because the state state
has to pick up a bigger tab after after getting
totally addicted to the idea of the feds helping
them expand the capabilities of Medicaid next thing you
know the federal match reduces and we pick up
a bigger ticket to the tune of hundreds of
millions of dollars right by the federal program it
restrict what we can do as a state it
restricts work requirements for that you know for Medicaid
benefit benefits that's something that Arkansas has gone back-and-forth
in the court about which is they tried to
assign work requirements for certain childless adults and you
know people who able bodies adult who are not
working they try to make basically the old you
know Newt Gingrich style work requirements or at least be seeking
a job requirement and the federal court struck that
down now they Sanders has tried that again and
it's working its way through the system to have
a work requirement Weaver so that they can actually
get people off the role and into the workforce
so that's in process right now that's that remains
to be seen and here's the other thing and
you hit on it but this is interesting this
comparison to Arkansas because Alabama is trying to compare
yourself to Arkansas body baba here's the thing Arkansas
is paying $200 million a year as a state for
this program that current so not only or would
we pay 2 00 million or you know whatever
that the number would be for Alabama and comparison
to Arkansas then that when that balloon payment comes
through from the federal government it will explode it
it will explode and then at the same time
and I'm glad of it Alabama is required to
have a balanced budget which means we can't go
into deaf spending which means that what either a
borrow from the trust fund or be they'll have to
cut programs elsewhere to maintain the size of Medicaid
which is an awful set of parameters to work
with I listen I hate to do to break
right now and we didn't even touch on gambling
are you able to stay on the break and
then come back and do it like a short
segment on gambling let's do all right we can take
a break right now we're with Stephanie Smith President
of the Alamo policy to listen you can go
to their website Alabama policy .org if you want
to get in the weeds on some stuff and
find out the deep detail details of things you
wish you'd never known but they are there Alabama
policy Institute got them for you in writing on
their website check them out Alabama policy .org we
will be right back on right side radio we
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at a time going right now back to the
phone with Stephanie Smith president of the Alabama policy
Institute and Stephanie we're gonna talk about gambling here
the majority of what I wanna talk about with
you for the last few minutes but I got
to ask you first of all do you know
anything about Bloomberg pledging $26 million for a healthcare sciences
high school in Demopolis Alabama have you heard that story
heard that governor put in her potential budget last
legislative session that the pause button was pressed because
this year kind of strangeness and $10 figure assigned
to that idea by the powers that be on
the budgetary side of the legislature and I think
that there was a task force that was assigned to
kind of study whether or not that was a
viable project and in the meantime that crew has
has gotten some New York City money New York City what is it
what is it the taste Bloomberg money is now
gonna be the reason why it should be in
Demopolis and it should be fully funded by the
legislature because they have this money and of course this
money can't be accessed in the legislature and the
Bloomberg is not known for conservative policy and I
just cannot help but wonder if we are looking
at something that comes with a lot of stringers it's like
when Bill Gates decided he wanted to be involved going
to state shopping around some funds and you were
like yeah I'm not sure what we're agreeing to
hear but it's probably not good yeah well listen
speaking of nothing good let's talk about the potential
for gambling and let me ask you what insights
do you have on whether or not these omnibus
gambling bills have the ability to even pass both
the house and/or the Senate what are your thoughts
on that first of all a lot of pressure right now
to act on gambling in the Senate past the
last quadrant not the current Senate that is there
now past a one of these bills that Greg
Albritton was was carrying at the time and yeah
it was a different it was a different set
of folks there the Senate did pass it and
in the house sat on it and then so
now the last couple of years things have kind
of just rocked along and now the house is
getting a lot of pressure to act first and then send
some sort of bill for the Senate to consider
but what not being discussed very much or often
enough in my opinion is the fact that and
the roster has changed in the Senate and when
the roster changes the votes changed you know that's
representative you know that's representative government and so I
don't think that there's anything and I haven't seen
a draft not unlike the house members and senators
who I understand I've also not seen a draft
though apparently it's been leaked to some members of
the media which should take people off frankly if
I were a representative and I was being pressured
to vote for a bill that some people in
the media had seen that I had not seen
that would not be you know that would not
be endearing to me that I knew less about
it than the Alabama political reporter did that would
not make me happy as a representative but that
maybe that's why I'm not a representative so anyway
the bill supposedly makes some changes increases enforceability and
has what they're calling a bidding process which you
and I know would have to be some sort of
rig bidding process in order for the current legal
operators actually let that we're watching that play out
so poorly right now with with the marijuana commission I mean
the idea of bidding or competing for limited licensure
and not that I even want this stuff but
but they went totally anti- free-market on the manner
which they intend to apply this it seems like
a negative double governance triple whammy really because they're
creating what they're calling a gaming commission that you're
increasing bureaucracy you're putting unelected officials in charge of
major decisions in the state and and it's a
corruptible process and we've seen that play out and
in this marijuana situation and then here's the other
piece that I think that maybe that I'm given
benefit of the doubt maybe they were well intended
about which is they're trying to say OK if
the constitutional and then that passes the statewide constitutional
amendment passes then the counties that were chosen to
have these would have the ability to opt in
or hold their own vote and it's counties but
then it's city of Birmingham and so if you
live in or around the city of Birmingham I
would be willing to be that the city Council
in the city of Birmingham would a approved gambling
in about five seconds flat and so all of a sudden this
is your business so there are a lot of constituents that
that are getting stirred up into this by the
way that they're trying to fix it I think
they've just made a little bit more of a
mess it is layers of pain into something that
was already gonna be painful no matter what they
did and it's it is to the point of
watching the legislature go into self-flagellation mode trying to
create something out of nothing it's just it's just ridiculous
that legalizing is going to nope I can't get
it I can't even get past that that's that
argument right there or fall short when you consider
you could say that about drugs prostitution human trafficking
it's out there it's illegal we should regulate it
so we can tax it well Stephanie Smith as
always I appreciate your inside you you bring a lot
to the table on these discussions if you want
the folks to find out more about what you
got going on tell them where they can find
you you can find that Alabama policy .org and
yourself are on Twitter as well as Alabama policy am I
correct another social media we're on all the social
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it these days but we have our guides to
the issues and our blueprint for Alabama out on
our website so you can read about all these
issues to your hearts content thanks appreciate you all right
thanks all right stay tuned we're gonna switch gears and
get off a policy and start talking sports for
a minute cause it impacts right here in Alabama
I'm curious to hear what Hannah Stevens the UA
sign girl has to say about the portal at Alabama
oh my y'all stay tuned we'll be right back